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a drop in US monetary stimulus will increase physical demand for the yellow 0:04 metal 0:04 and data security breaches that target and Neiman Marcus have resulted in 0:09 millions of consumers having a credit card information stolen 0:12 for more on how the breach occurred and what online retailers need to do to 0:16 prevent it 0:17 we've actually a Cali president and CEO pathway communications this is a company 0:21 that specializes in data security for retailers as well as Spain's 0:24 and other businesses wonderful to have you with us thank you for joining thanks 0:28 honey on 0:28 actually lets talk first about because I think it's surprising people 0:32 in terms of how this actually happened and it didn't just happen to one 0:35 retailers happened at Neiman Marcus and summer saying others as well 0:38 that's right and you know from all indications the pattern is so it 0:41 probably seems to be the same group is responsible for this 0:44 so in terms of mechanism a lot these tools are available online and pretty 0:48 freely available that patrols to to be able to break and be able to bill for 0:53 the information trailing yeah 0:54 so and it seems to be you know how they've actually gotten access not a 0:57 point of sale systems 0:58 these days everything is so interconnected from the point of sales 1:02 at a car companies running 1:03 right onto his web systems that getting access from one area 1:06